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		<title>Comment on This IC System suit blog is now at Liars and Cheats EXPOSED by Christine</title>
		<link>http://liarsandcheats.info/ic-system-collection-suit-settled/2010/06/22/this-ic-system-collection-suit-blog-is-now-at-liars-and-cheats-exposed/#comment-583</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not familiar with Google Voice, seems to be cell phone related: https://www.google.com/voice/?setup=1#setup/     Personally, I only use cell phones for emergencies and not only because I don&#039;t need a brain tumor, but I dislike being tracked at all times. And I dislike Google as they are way too close to the government and way too big. I usually use http://startpage.com/ for my web searches.

I find that the FREE K7 service does a super job of documenting calls and one of my clients actually has her land line forwarded to K7 after 4 rings so that she is no longer bothered with collection calls and she gets the recordings of hangups or messages emailed to her -- all for the small cost of call forwarding service from her local phone company.

You are right that the more documentation you have, the better. However, the actual call attempts are all provided by the collector through discovery.  

&lt;strong&gt;Their software keep track of EVERY attempt. &lt;/strong&gt; 

So the most important evidence are the recordings of their messages or conversations with you as they will NOT provide those. And that&#039;s where you get the best FDCPA violations.  For TCPA, their attempted calls are all you need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not familiar with Google Voice, seems to be cell phone related: <a href="https://www.google.com/voice/?setup=1#setup/" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/voice/?setup=1#setup/</a>     Personally, I only use cell phones for emergencies and not only because I don&#8217;t need a brain tumor, but I dislike being tracked at all times. And I dislike Google as they are way too close to the government and way too big. I usually use <a href="http://startpage.com/" rel="nofollow">http://startpage.com/</a> for my web searches.</p>
<p>I find that the FREE K7 service does a super job of documenting calls and one of my clients actually has her land line forwarded to K7 after 4 rings so that she is no longer bothered with collection calls and she gets the recordings of hangups or messages emailed to her &#8212; all for the small cost of call forwarding service from her local phone company.</p>
<p>You are right that the more documentation you have, the better. However, the actual call attempts are all provided by the collector through discovery.  </p>
<p><strong>Their software keep track of EVERY attempt. </strong> </p>
<p>So the most important evidence are the recordings of their messages or conversations with you as they will NOT provide those. And that&#8217;s where you get the best FDCPA violations.  For TCPA, their attempted calls are all you need.</p>
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		<title>Comment on This IC System suit blog is now at Liars and Cheats EXPOSED by NohBady</title>
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		<dc:creator>NohBady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an observation, getting something like Google Voice placed in front of your phone line or a SIP based phone service where they offer the call logs- or get a geek to set up a SIP based line with a PBX system running on a computer will give you an edge.  They call often without leaving ANY messages- 3 seconds isn&#039;t long enough to leave messages.  Last couple of days because I&#039;m &quot;late&quot; they&#039;ve hammered my phone 4-6 times a day and on the weekends (which is a no-no...)- all of which was logged on the PBX system I&#039;ve got.

All you need is proof.  Recording the conversations will help.  Recording the attempts they make to contact you will help as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an observation, getting something like Google Voice placed in front of your phone line or a SIP based phone service where they offer the call logs- or get a geek to set up a SIP based line with a PBX system running on a computer will give you an edge.  They call often without leaving ANY messages- 3 seconds isn&#8217;t long enough to leave messages.  Last couple of days because I&#8217;m &#8220;late&#8221; they&#8217;ve hammered my phone 4-6 times a day and on the weekends (which is a no-no&#8230;)- all of which was logged on the PBX system I&#8217;ve got.</p>
<p>All you need is proof.  Recording the conversations will help.  Recording the attempts they make to contact you will help as well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on IC System numbers: 410-968-7953 &#8212; 651-204-1374 &#8212; 800-561-5695 &#8212;  866-903-1001 by Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 18:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RECORD the calls (they will lie about it if you don&#039;t) and then:

* File a complaint with your state AG and the FTC

* SUE them

If you have recordings, you can probably get an attorney on contingency and get a few dollars or just sue in small claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RECORD the calls (they will lie about it if you don&#8217;t) and then:</p>
<p>* File a complaint with your state AG and the FTC</p>
<p>* SUE them</p>
<p>If you have recordings, you can probably get an attorney on contingency and get a few dollars or just sue in small claims.</p>
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		<title>Comment on IC System numbers: 410-968-7953 &#8212; 651-204-1374 &#8212; 800-561-5695 &#8212;  866-903-1001 by Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 15:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these people keep calling me, 4 or 5 times a day, asking for someone I&#039;ve never heard of, I told them they have the wrong number, I don&#039;t have any outstanding debts, and they continue to call, its very aggravating, any suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these people keep calling me, 4 or 5 times a day, asking for someone I&#8217;ve never heard of, I told them they have the wrong number, I don&#8217;t have any outstanding debts, and they continue to call, its very aggravating, any suggestions?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Settlement conference and my settlement offer by Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 00:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, please check the FDRS blog:
http://liarsandcheats.info/fdrs-mark-cella-debt-elimination-fraud/


If a DEBT BUYER is suing you, you should be able to prevail against them.

If it&#039;s the original creditor, it&#039;ll be tough.  You can try to get the creditor to go after the FDRS people and also get FDCPA claims against the creditor&#039;s attorneys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, please check the FDRS blog:<br />
<a href="http://liarsandcheats.info/fdrs-mark-cella-debt-elimination-fraud/" rel="nofollow">http://liarsandcheats.info/fdrs-mark-cella-debt-elimination-fraud/</a></p>
<p>If a DEBT BUYER is suing you, you should be able to prevail against them.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s the original creditor, it&#8217;ll be tough.  You can try to get the creditor to go after the FDRS people and also get FDCPA claims against the creditor&#8217;s attorneys.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Settlement conference and my settlement offer by joe marzette</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe marzette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 00:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got scammed for $5500.00 on FDRS &amp; IC systems now I am having to go to court for this the amount of $ 11000.00. I want to know how I can get my money back if any HELP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got scammed for $5500.00 on FDRS &amp; IC systems now I am having to go to court for this the amount of $ 11000.00. I want to know how I can get my money back if any HELP!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Settlement conference and my settlement offer by joe marzette</title>
		<link>http://liarsandcheats.info/ic-system-collection-suit-settled/2008/10/06/settlement-conference-and-my-settlement-offer/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>joe marzette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 00:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got scammed for $5500.00 on FDRS &amp; IC systems now I am having to go to court Iwant to know how I can get my money back if any HELP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got scammed for $5500.00 on FDRS &amp; IC systems now I am having to go to court Iwant to know how I can get my money back if any HELP!</p>
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		<title>Comment on IC System numbers: 410-968-7953 &#8212; 651-204-1374 &#8212; 800-561-5695 &#8212;  866-903-1001 by Philo312</title>
		<link>http://liarsandcheats.info/ic-system-collection-suit-settled/2008/07/29/ic-system-phone-numbers/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Philo312</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IC SYSTEMS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION!!
I was unbelieveably hasseled by IC Systems (Alan) even after I agreed to make payments since I was concerned about my credit report.  Anyway, after they consistently threatened me that they would report me to the BIG 3 credit reporting agencies if I missed ONE DAY and didn&#039;t pay the EXACT amount: ..I took matters into my own hands:
I found the person who is the director or credit reporting at IC SYSTEMS and she said they didn&#039;t report anyone who attempted payments and ultimately paid the balance (within 9 months) (she asked how I got her number: and I said the supervisor game me it - hah!!)

ROXANNE BZDOK: 651-481-6434</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IC SYSTEMS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION!!<br />
I was unbelieveably hasseled by IC Systems (Alan) even after I agreed to make payments since I was concerned about my credit report.  Anyway, after they consistently threatened me that they would report me to the BIG 3 credit reporting agencies if I missed ONE DAY and didn&#8217;t pay the EXACT amount: ..I took matters into my own hands:<br />
I found the person who is the director or credit reporting at IC SYSTEMS and she said they didn&#8217;t report anyone who attempted payments and ultimately paid the balance (within 9 months) (she asked how I got her number: and I said the supervisor game me it &#8211; hah!!)</p>
<p>ROXANNE BZDOK: 651-481-6434</p>
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		<title>Comment on IC System numbers: 410-968-7953 &#8212; 651-204-1374 &#8212; 800-561-5695 &#8212;  866-903-1001 by Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just want to note here that I&#039;m consolidating my blogs and I already moved a couple blogs about credit reporting and collection abuse (Portfolio Recovery) with my PUBLISHED FTC and AG complaints to http://liarsandcheats.info/

This blog will also be moved within the next few weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just want to note here that I&#8217;m consolidating my blogs and I already moved a couple blogs about credit reporting and collection abuse (Portfolio Recovery) with my PUBLISHED FTC and AG complaints to <a href="http://liarsandcheats.info/" rel="nofollow">http://liarsandcheats.info/</a></p>
<p>This blog will also be moved within the next few weeks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on IC System numbers: 410-968-7953 &#8212; 651-204-1374 &#8212; 800-561-5695 &#8212;  866-903-1001 by Reese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CJ, Yes people should pay their bills but there are situations that come up that a person falls behind to pay their bills.  Some people become unemployed or sick.  It does not give collection companies like IC systems, Enhance Recovery to keep harassing consumers.  They should get it through their thick skulls that harassing, verbally abusing people does not help get money out of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJ, Yes people should pay their bills but there are situations that come up that a person falls behind to pay their bills.  Some people become unemployed or sick.  It does not give collection companies like IC systems, Enhance Recovery to keep harassing consumers.  They should get it through their thick skulls that harassing, verbally abusing people does not help get money out of people.</p>
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